Not one of those feminists….
By Louise Livesey | 29 February 2008, 09:54
I’ll never forget one birthday party I had a few years ago where an old schoolfriend of mine had brought her new boyfriend. We’d chatted for a while, he’d been talking geek stuff with my then boyfriend and then I got to talking with him. Now other than he’d already expressed pretty heinous views (if the Bangadeshi’s are willing to work for 50 cents a day why shouldn’t we let them for example) he eventually asked what subjects I taught at the Uni. “Women’s Studies.” I replied. “Oh,” he said without a beat, “so you’re a man-hater then”.
I had the good grace not to laugh in his face - although had he known the amount of discussion he later engendered (of the “Can you believe it?” vein) it’s not just his ears that would have been flushed! I know many of us are driven to defend our feminist positions on a regular basis and so Colleen Watson’s article in the little known Spartan Daily (San Jose University’s newspaper) is well worth reading (and maybe printing, and maybe giving out to each numpty we meet who needs it).
Ten years later and I still feel that whenever I say that I’m a feminist, I feel like I have to explain why, to give a reason for my pro-women stance, or at least let people know that I don’t get any joy from kicking puppies. Whenever I hear a woman say she is a feminist, it is always with an added caveat. She can’t just be a feminist. She has to quickly explain that she is not a “feminazi” and that she doesn’t hate men.
From Spartan Daily
Watson looks at misogyny is a range of fields, from Hilary (yes that’s one of the points) being called an “uppity woman” by an MSNBC reporter (though I doubt to her face!) to comments on internet news sites (the US seemingly suffers the same problems as Comment is Free over here!) to lack of representation in senior positions. It’s a great affirmation of why feminism is needed.
On a similar vein for women who “aren’t ready yet” Chloe Angyal has written a piece for The Princetonian (yet another US Uni paper) about “how to be a feminist without anyone knowing”. (Although why you’d not want people to know is rather beyond me….). Her advice?
1. Quit obsessing about your body.
2. Quit calling othe women derogatory names like “slut”.
3. Don’t let advertisers sell you empowerment - it can’t be bought.
4. Make smart sexual decisions.
5. Really and truly value women.
Of course I’d add:
6. Remember saying you are a feminist actually does start to make a difference in the world.
But the first five are pretty good to be going on with….
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Steph Jones said:
Dare you mention the F-word on the BBC Womans Hour messageboard, and soon you attract a swarm of what is usually men (but occasionally a woman) all calling you a 'man hater', 'Feminazi', or other such derogatory remarks. They always achieve exactly what they set out to do, reduce/stifle discussion, name-call and imply that your opinions are always lesser.
On what should be a messageboard where such pertinant issues affecting women are discussed openly, and within a space where women should feel able to do so, the fear of being accused of being such things for simply airing a 'Feminist' view tends to drive posters away.
Posted on 29 February 2008 at 12:32 PM
Lara said:
What I've learned is that there's absolutely no point in trying to defend or justify your feminist stance. If I say that I am a "feminist" to someone, and they make a comment about me being a "man-hater," I simply reply "and your point is?...."
We are talking about women's humanity here? Why do men (and some women) turn this into having to be about men and their goddamned privilege all the time? Oh yeah, cuz of patriarchy!
Funny how people make hateful comments against feminists and just reaffirm everything feminists believe about society.
Posted on 02 March 2008 at 6:05 AM