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<![CDATA[<a title="http://wwwhot.mail" href="http://wwwhot.mail" rel="nofollow">sima valand </a> said: Dear ,frends please help me iam in sudan i wont to came back uk give me sponcer letter thank u]]>
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<title>zohra commented on &quot;Feminist Spoons&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/" href="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/" rel="nofollow">zohra</a> said: Great post Philippa, thanks for naming some of the problems so clearly.]]>
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<title>Soirore commented on &quot;Women and Silent Britain&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://twitter.com/soirore" href="http://twitter.com/soirore" rel="nofollow">Soirore</a> said: I have been looking forward to this for ages, it&apos;s going to be AWESOME! If any other silent film loving F Word readers are going and would like to meet up please tweet me.]]>
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<title>Joy Wood commented on &quot;Guest post: Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Joy Wood said: Thanks for the clarification and for stating the times of the two-part march, together with the venue for the reception.  Like FeminaErecta who posted earlier, I&apos;d be grateful if you would let us know the initial meeting place for the 6.30pm start, plus the meeting place for the 7.10pm supporters to join up with the initial marchers.]]>
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<title>Laura Woodhouse commented on &quot;Guest post: Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog" href="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog">Laura Woodhouse</a> said: Hi Joy, 

The first section of the march (6.30-7.10) is self defining women and children (female and male) only, other supporters can join at 7.10 and the reception is for everyone. It will be held at Lord Mayors Banqueting Hall, at the Civic Hall on Millenium Square.

That&apos;s an excellent point, Amy Clare, and one that clearly needs to be taken into consideration in planning women only events in the future. Personally I think an exception should be made for male carers. I&apos;ve passed your comment onto the organisers.]]>
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<title>Daniela Vincenti commented on &quot;Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Daniela Vincenti said: Hi Laura,
I get your points about the symbolism of a women-only march. I think this is a case where both options would be valid and I dont really have a strong preference for either.
Unfortuneatley I live quite far away from Leeds but enjoy the march!]]>
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<title>Daniel commented on &quot;New piece on CiF - &apos;Population control is not what makes climate change a feminist issue&apos;&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Daniel said: @jforbes - Hi there. I also think it doesn&apos;t necessarily  do to ignore trolls outright. Not only for the reasons gadgetgal mentioned but also because they can then accuse you of refusing to debate with them. Other anti-feminist types will see it and go &quot;there you are! They can&apos;t answer back so they&apos;re just ignoring him!&quot;. Of course, there comes a point when ignoring them is all you can do and I do take your point about fanning the flames but I do believe CiF should have some kind of moderating system.]]>
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<![CDATA[Soirore said: Really looking forward to seeing Bright Star but probably won&apos;t make it this weekend darn it. The first weekend strategy requires planning!
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<title>jan commented on &quot;JSA Rant&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[jan said: That is unfair - my friend back in Rugby signed on while still living at home, even though both her parents work! It&apos;s hypocritical that the Job Centre are meant to work on the principle of equal opportunities and yet they&apos;re telling Laura she has to rely on a man. Next time just say you rent your room in a shared house because that&apos;s not lying, you&apos;re just leaving out something that&apos;s quite frankly none of their business anyway!]]>
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<title>Denise commented on &quot;New piece on CiF - &apos;Population control is not what makes climate change a feminist issue&apos;&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Denise said: If someone is privileged enough to be engaging in &quot;challenging, enlightening debate&quot; then clearly they&apos;re not having to put up with rubbish at that time, are they? Because the debate is challenging and enlightening! Haw. 

Everyone finds their own level, and the blinkered little misogynist trolls have tumbled all the way down into theirs - CiF. They can have their &apos;floor&apos; (covered in troll droppings) and enjoy trying to outdo one another with their troll wit and wisdom and trollspert knowledge and opinions on absolutely every subject, and troll on about life in trollworld, where the sky is always low and grey and the sunshine of informed, considered, rational opinion will never break through the low, suffocating toxic cloud layer. 

Thank goodness for the blue blue sky, fresh breeze and bright sunshine of TFW! Ahhh. I&apos;m lovin&apos; it.]]>
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<title>sianmarie commented on &quot;New piece on CiF - &apos;Population control is not what makes climate change a feminist issue&apos;&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.sianandcrookedrib.blogspot.com" href="http://www.sianandcrookedrib.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">sianmarie</a> said: as gadgetgal says, it isn&apos;t as easy as just ignoring the trolls, they shout so loudly. and not all pf the abusive people on CIF are trolls, they can be perfectly reasonable on non feminist cif pages. (not naming any names)

i do ignore the trolls now as i refuse to go on cif. surely it&apos;s really awful that me and other readers like me feel excluded from the site because of the nasty, uninformed attitude towards feminism of many CIF commenters or trolls?]]>
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<title>gadgetgal commented on &quot;Feminist Spoons&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[gadgetgal said: This is a great post! My sister&apos;s a disabled feminist but to be frank she&apos;s probably a bigger one than me, and no less of one because of it keeping her away from direct campaigning. And as hers is deafness it&apos;s also unseen. But the fact that she&apos;s strong, works hard, has struggled to have a family, has made it work now that she has one - yeah, she&apos;s definitely a better feminist than I am!

And I think you&apos;ve started a trend here, by they way - suddenly I&apos;m seeing spoons mentioned everywhere!]]>
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<![CDATA[gadgetgal said: @jforbes

Hi - never been on Cif before until I read this posting here, so I not only read the article above, I also checked through for other articles - mostly feminist or feminist-related, but I also looked at some other controversial topics too. I was appalled. It seems like it&apos;s not even just the trolls - the usual nice contributors suddenly seem to turn into patronising arses when there&apos;s a woman involved. No wonder most of the women on this site think that&apos;s what Cif entirely consists of!

I understand your usual tactic is to ignore them, it&apos;s usually mine too, but (if you check out one of the previous posts I made here on street harassment) it&apos;s not always something you can do. You&apos;ve already accepted that certain &quot;pack dogs&quot; seem to follow any kind of feminist posting, meaning they tend to receive more abuse than normal. So how much abuse should a person have to sift through before they can answer a question? And how much of a challenging and enlightening debate can it really be for the people on the receiving end of it (and I&apos;m not just talking about the authors, I&apos;m talking about me and any other woman who has to sit there sifting through that guff!)?

Maybe some of the responsibility should be taken by the other more moderate posters - there&apos;s an old African adage that says &quot;if you&apos;re not part of the solution then you&apos;re part of the problem&quot;. It&apos;s a little dramatic for my tastes but it&apos;s pretty damn accurate at times - by ignoring the number of abusive posts and the level of abuse received by women and minority groups without even one comment on how that&apos;s not on, or even fanning their flames by being patronisingly critical (and I&apos;ve seen them both on every feminist article I read on Cif, haven&apos;t read &apos;em all, but the abuse was starting to make me feel stupid and rather less than human) then perhaps you need to accept that it IS your issue too.

I can only let you know what people do on this site - if someone is being abused, or talked down to, or ganged up on, there is ALWAYS someone who will go to their aid, especially the moderators. Since Cif seems to be mostly self-moderated (or just badly moderated, couldn&apos;t tell which) maybe some of the good guys should try and see it from our perspective and give us a helping hand - it&apos;s a sexist, sexist world, many men don&apos;t take women seriously (unfair, but true, as Cif proves beyond a shadow of a doubt), but they might take more notice if it came from one of you.

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<title>A fake name (sorry) commented on &quot;Feminist Spoons&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[A fake name (sorry) said: Thank you for this. I have felt so guilty in the past when I have let down &quot;the cause&quot; because I just didn&apos;t have the spoons.

So many times I would sign up for activism, events, projects and so forth in my manic periods and then be unable to follow through when I got depressed later. I felt that I couldn&apos;t tell the groups what was happening so have left them thinking I&apos;m just unreliable.

It is strange how one blog post can explain how I have been feeling when I didn&apos;t know myself. Thank you so much Philippa. And I agree with others - online is the way forward for those with limited spoons (or spoons that turn into forks in my case).]]>
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<title>Amy Clare commented on &quot;Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Amy Clare said: @Laura:

That&apos;s all very well, and I understand the reasons, but I am excluded from the march on those grounds, because I am disabled and my carer (my boyfriend) would need to push my wheelchair. 

As it happens I can&apos;t make it on that night anyway, but this is something that I would have liked to have been involved with otherwise. 
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.sianandcrookedrib.blogspot.com" href="http://www.sianandcrookedrib.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">sianmarie</a> said: hi daniela

in bristol our RTN was mixed (we are in the decision process for whether to have it mixed in 2010) with a woman&apos;s only segment leading the march. it was very important to us that the women only section was at the front, to show that we don&apos;t need men&apos;s protection.
the reasons we had to include men were manifold. we didn&apos;t want to exclude men as we felt it was important to recognise that in order to fight violence against women, we need men on our side, that men support and care about this issue, and are affected by it. 
we also didn&apos;t want to leave men behind as this could also exclude women, from women who would not support an exclusive march or feel upset/offended that men weren&apos;t welcome and, perhaps even more importantly, to allow women who might need a male companion (e.g. carers or for cultural reasons) to attend.

it is such a tricky debate and i do understand why some RTNs choose to be single sex. i&apos;m not sure if bristol has been the only recent mixed march? does anyone know? 

yet even having made the march mixed with the women&apos;s only section, we were still criticised by some male attendees for not being &quot;inclusive enough&quot; - for example none of the speakers at the rally were men. we pointed out that this was because it was primarily a woman focussed event, looking at violence against women, and that no men had volunteered to speak. i was furious about that criticism i have to say! it seems you can&apos;t win...

we&apos;re in the planning stages now so it depends on the consultation whether the march is voted to be mixed or self identified women only. 

this has been a bit rambling sorry! just wanted to say how some marches are mixed and that was our reasoning as to why!]]>
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<title>Laura Woodhouse commented on &quot;Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog" href="http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog">Laura Woodhouse</a> said: Hi Daniela, 

Briefly - the whole point of Reclaim the Night is to assert women&apos;s right to use public space safely and to live free of male violence. The women-only nature of the event is a visual representation of our demands - we don&apos;t want or need men to &apos;protect&apos; us when we walk home at night - and is also rooted in the history of Reclaim the Night, when women were told to stay off the streets in response to the Yorkshire ripper killings. Women took over public space to protest at this victim blaming, scare mongering approach.]]>
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<title>Joy Wood commented on &quot;Guest post: Reclaim the Night Leeds&quot;</title>
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<![CDATA[Joy Wood said: Please confirm who can attend which sections of the event.  It seems there are two parts to the march, followed by a reception.
Is the first part of the march for women only (that is, everybody who identifies as a woman or girl), and the second part of the march for any supporters (that is, everybody who does not identify as a woman or girl) to join in in solidarity; and the reception for everybody who supports the aims of RTN?  Are children invited to all three sections of the event?  If not, which sections, if any, may they attend.
I&apos;m trying to avoid anyone missing out on attending when they&apos;d like to, but they thought they weren&apos;t invited.]]>
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<![CDATA[Amy Clare said: This is a fantastic post, Philippa. 

I have chronic medical conditions which affect my life enormously and like you, I don&apos;t have very many spoons so I have to use them wisely. I don&apos;t participate in protests/marches/other physical forms of activism, for this reason. It is simply very difficult for me to get involved at this level. 

One of the difficulties I face is that my carer is my boyfriend, and I need to be accompanied by him in most places. Every local feminist activist group I have found so far has stated that its meetings are open to women only. If my carer can&apos;t attend then I can&apos;t attend and that&apos;s that, really. While I understand why they restrict entry, I feel that there should be some flexibility where disabled women are concerned. 

Being absent from physical activism doesn&apos;t mean that I don&apos;t contribute, though. I have written a few guest blogs and a review for this very site, and this keeps my hand in so to speak. I&apos;m considering starting my own blog, but that would take many more spoons and isn&apos;t something I&apos;m sure I can manage. However - every little bit counts! 
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<![CDATA[Ms Chevious said: @ Napalmnacey

Spot on!! Although I am passionate about mental health awareness I simply can&apos;t undertake as much activism as I&apos;d like because it takes too many spoons - also it consumes me to the point when I just become walking MH issues, when the whole point is that I am much more than that.

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<![CDATA[Daniela Vincenti said: Dear Philippa,
Thanks for speaking out on these issues. I would like to add that no woman should be pressured into doing more than she can for feminism. We all have other commitments and issues in life. I totally get your point about disabled access. Unfortuneatley there are resource implications too, and sometimes the only affordable place is one without adequate facilities. ]]>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://leftofthepleiades.blogstpot.com" href="http://leftofthepleiades.blogstpot.com" rel="nofollow">Ruth Moss</a> said: Open to all self-defining women?
Children are welcome to attend?
At a time that&apos;s appropriate for young children with early bedtimes? 

Are my eyes deceiving me? Is this a Reclaim the Night that&apos;s doing it right? 

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<![CDATA[prof said: Hi
I pretty much agree with everyones comments but my heart lies with animal welfare.As always...some guy...GUY..has come up with what he thinks is a great advertising campaign and for some reason...they seem to have the ability to convince people with the best intentions that it&apos;s in their interests even if it might feel against their gut instincts.
The advertising industry is full of failed directors..exclusively male...and a damaged ego is a powerful thing.
But looking at the bigger picture...what peta are trying to achieve is a good thing...maybe it&apos;s a similar situation to live aid...people like Bono telling us to dig deep and then flying his hat business class to America from the UK after leaving it behind after a gig.
I stumbled on this site looking for peta info but wanted to leave a comment.
I guess the problem is not with just these ads but advertising as a whole...the fact that it...like most things ...is a male dominated profession..and that&apos;s where the problem lies I think.
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<![CDATA[jforbes said: @Mary &amp; Mo

I think the best way to deal with Trolls and the like is to ignore them - basically they are just attention seekers looking for a fight, &apos;Don&apos;t Feed the Trolls&apos; has long been good advice since the days the the newsgroups.

Cif varies a lot, I don&apos;t agree that it is  completely dominated by trolls &amp; flamers. But I accept that any apparently feminist blog attracts what someone described as pack dogs. They probably won&apos;t all go away completely if they are ignored, but trying to engage with them only encourages them and gives their &apos;opinions&apos; legitimacy  they don&apos;t deserve.

Not engaging with those who have thought out but perhaps challenging opinions, just leave the floor to the trolls.

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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.pinkstinks.co.uk" href="http://www.pinkstinks.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Abi Moore</a> said: Dear troon,

Your comments have been noted! 

I just wanted to respond in some way though, firstly by letting you know that I too am a mother of boys... the site came about partly as a result of my worries about the imagery, messages and stereotypes they were and are bombarded with each and every day. About what it is to be a girl and a woman... 

We have never claimed to be a feminist site, although I am a feminist as is my sister (co-founder and mother of girls) and we are more than happy to be labelled as such. it&apos;s up to you whether you think it is or not, clearly you think not, that&apos;s fine.

Our intention has never been to be a high-brow site, but to react in an accessible way to the horrors we see around us. It&apos;s been very successful, as there is not much else going on to combat all this guff.

We would love more time and money to do this in the way we envisage it, but unfortunately we both work full time and have two kids each, so it&apos;s a spare time thing, and we have paid for most of it ourselves, because we believe in it. We have a lot of plans, and a lot of helpers, so hopefully we can address some of the issues in the future.

If I could personally destroy the girls and boys floors of Hamley&apos;s I would. So I&apos;m baffled at what ever it is that makes you think we want to merely dress them up as something else. In fact I&apos;m mortified. We&apos;re called PinkStinks for gods sake! 
We&apos;ll have to agree to disagree on that!

Above all else, everything we do is from the heart, cheesy I know, but I agree we need better role models for boys, however, this whole thing started after the blanket news coverage that Paris Hilton received upon leaving jail... and I&apos;d just been filming with a woman nobel prize winning chemist making a new cure for cancer, so I got off my arse and decided to do something about it.

As for politicians, we left them out, because we refused to put Margaret Thatcher in there, ridiculous I know... but activists seemed easier to swallow! The list is only a taster really of what we could, should, will, hope to put on.... so if it doesn&apos;t cover everyone and everything... sorry... but rest assured, we&apos;re working on it.

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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.freelancemum.blogspot.com" href="http://www.freelancemum.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Jane</a> said: @Jenna - Charlotte Bronte having to sneak in feminism - agree. But she had to write as a MAN to get the book even published!  Remember Jane Eyre is written by one Currer Bell, and was received with open arms by the Victorian public.  Until it was discovered that Mr Bell was in fact a parson&apos;s daughter and suddenly people were whispering about the &apos;unnatural passions&apos; in the book.  ]]>
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<![CDATA[Jackie Bather said: Polly,
Your comment re: how easy it is to be offensive, by accusing someone of being &apos;mentally ill&apos; is very striking.I believe that people who use this strategy are  actually terrified, of being thought of as mentally ill themselves, in some way.They have some personal issues and anxiety, with the whole area of mental health, be it good or poor health.So their comments actually reveal far more about their own mode of thinking,rather than the person they are directing them at, in my view.]]>
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.rebelgrrlzine.co.uk" href="http://www.rebelgrrlzine.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Philippa Willitts</a> said: Kristel - thank you! You&apos;ve given me a real boost! 

Jehenna - thank you too, your comment really made me smile! Endeavouring to avoid being an ass to someone is probably a good goal for all of us! There really is a lot for all of us to learn, and I&apos;m so glad you&apos;ve got good input in your life.

And Kitt, I&apos;m so glad that my post touched you personally, and I loved your phrase:
--we have been forced to plumb the depths of out ingenuity to do the things we want to using as few spoons as possible--
This sums up my life!
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<![CDATA[<a title="http://www.rebelgrrlzine.co.uk" href="http://www.rebelgrrlzine.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Philippa Willitts</a> said: Napalmnacey - one of my health problems is endometriosis too, so I really know what you mean. I also remember those days of demos most weekends and action all the time! I miss it too, and you&apos;re right, being the change we want to see is not only something we can sometimes only do, but we need to also remember that it is really good and worthwhile! It is good enough, as are we :)

And thanks Sianmarie too. We&apos;re all on a learning curve, always. There are always issues we need to know more about, and do more about. It sounds like you&apos;re really considering the issues and I&apos;m glad my post helped with that. 
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<![CDATA[FeminaErecta said: Wild Sargasso Sea is brilliant! You should also read Charlotte Perkins Gilmore (I think...)&apos;s The Yellow Wallpaper, for what the Victorians really thought of madness!
However, one slight thing, my view of feminism as I see it isn&apos;t that women should dominate men but that everyone regardless of their sex/gender are treated equally by society as a whole and are offered the same chances and oppertunities...I wouldn&apos;t say that Jane going back to Rochester after he has lost his sight and his status (not that the two are combind) is her being an independent feminist, she marries him because she loves him and, now his wife is dead, she can, not because he is now &apos;weaker&apos; than her. If it were me I&apos;d have told the lying so-and-so where to get off and become the next Mrs Livingstone...actually having just read a biography of Mary Livingstone I think maybe Jane did have the right idea!
The point is that the Victorians had a totally different set of values to those illustrated today, and that Disney, by throwing up these old Grimm&apos;s Fairy Tales princesses as role-modeals for small children hardly show  positive moden role models- where&apos;s Disney&apos;s &apos;Chancellor&apos; range? I want to see an Angela Merkel dressing up kit and stationary set! ]]>
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<![CDATA[Jenna said: FeminaErectica, I agree... I don&apos;t believe she&apos;s a feminist heroine, as she seems repulsed by Bertha, loves the dominant aspect of Rochester etc etc... But she probably wanted the novel to be taken seriously by the Victorians and popular so couldn&apos;t break down patriarchy&apos;s door.

By comparing Jane Eyre to Disney princesses, what I meant was that, despite how she looks in films, she&apos;s constantly described as ugly. She doesn&apos;t have to gain our sympathy and good- will as a female by just being beautiful, a.k.a Belle et al.

p.s. to me Jane Eyre is a feminist novel, just because of the ending. She only goes with Rochester once he&apos;s much weaker, poorer and submissive to her. She refuses a life of being dominated by St. John. Overall she&apos;s more in the driving seat than most females written about today, let alone back then.

 I get the impression Bronte had to be sneaky to get any feminism in. Of course mad women were too much for Victorians.. Bronte couldn&apos;t stray the line too much there with plotting a whole book of sympathy for Bertha. Wide Sargasso Sea on the other hand..... (as good a book as Jane Eyre too)]]>
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<![CDATA[Kitt said: Philippa - thank you! I can’t tell you how wonderful it is to read your post. I too was once a very active feminist / political activist but that was before I became ill and this is the first thing I’ve read on F-word that has touched me in a very personal way. Being a feminist doesn’t mean you have to attend demo’s – that is not the only way to make an impact on the world around you and for some it is simply not possible. I know disabled feminists have a lot to offer – we have been forced to plumb the depths of out ingenuity to do the things we want to using as few spoons as possible, and to choose our battles because we simply have to prioritise everything, everyday. Feminism has always benefited from the ingenuity of women letting disabled people in will only add to this. We are another voice in the choir that will make the song sweeter and stronger.

I am so glad that F-word has finally decided to examine disability and I look forward to your future posts – definitely worth the spoons! 
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<![CDATA[FeminaErecta said: More alternative Princesses- &apos;The Wrestling Princess and Other Stories&apos;
&apos;Princess Polly to the Rescue&apos;, &apos;The Paperbag Princess&apos;, 
Slight bugbear- Jane Eyre, yes she focussed on her education and Bronte explored within the character the idea that both women and men&apos;s lives can be self-determined, but these ideas are more to do with class, the idea that women of the lower orders can be worthwhile as people. She still marries her man that she manages to snare by being gentle, good and intelligent (like Belle et al.) rather than travel the world and spread her beliefs as a companion to StJohn. And she doesn&apos;t exactly start a feminist revolution, breaking down the doors of the establishment when she hears about the treatment of Bertha. I love her, don&apos;t get me wrong, but I wouldn&apos;t describe her as an explicitly feminist heroine. ]]>
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