Carnivals, and a question for the sex positives.

// 3 June 2008

The Sixth Carnival Against Pornography and Prostitution is here, while the Fourth Feminist Carnival of Sexual Freedom and Autonomy is here.

Both offer plenty to get your teeth into, whatever your perspective!

While I’m here, can I ask: why are there next to no “sexy” images of men on sex positive* sites, or sites focusing on porn for women etc? Even the logo for Hot Films for Her features a sexualised woman rather than a man, despite the fact that many of the films are aimed at heterosexual women – so why isn’t the site advertised with a picture of a juicy man? Not all women are attracted to women…

Just seems to me that there’s a bit of the same old woman = sex idea going on here, and while the presentation of the woman and the context in which she is presented may be different from the mainstream, I wonder how radical this kind of approach is if the focus is still on women as the sexually stimulating object or subject. I’m not condemning the work being done by sex positive feminists – indeed, I’ve been intrigued by the work of Erika Lust (link NSFW) and will be reviewing her Five Hot Films for Her in the near future – but the image given out on some sites, or rather the promotional material for that work, does seem to frequently fall into this well-worn trope.

*I’m not a big fan of this term, but for want of a better word…

Comments From You

Samara // Posted 3 June 2008 at 11:36 am

Laura, I am so totally with you on this. If there were sex-positive porn available featuring men I found attractive (as opposed to vacant beefcakes with no body hair, which seems to be the type we are all supposed to like) I would definitely be into it. There is totally a gap in the market for pro-feminist geek porn.

Natalia // Posted 3 June 2008 at 11:47 am

//While I’m here, can I ask: why are there next to no “sexy” images of men on sex positive* sites, or sites focusing on porn for women etc?//

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I feature sexy images of men on my blog with some regularity. Unfortunately, sometimes the sheer availability of such images is a problem.

I also find myself attracted to male faces a whole lot more than to female faces (well, I’m heterosexual, so that could explain some of this).

But I also see that a lot of the good photographers focus on women’s bodies more and on men’s bodies less. *sigh* In that vein, of the best things to happen to the blog was the movie “300.” Lots and lots of hot, unclothed dudes

Happiness is a warm Spartan. ;)

RenegadeEvolution // Posted 3 June 2008 at 11:49 am

Hi Laura-

I’m just a blogger pretty much, but I put up photos of men I think are attractive fairly often :)

As for the porn sites, I’m not sre why really, except that still the primary consumers are male, and perhaps the designers of the sites or directors, ect., use images they find erotic?

JENNIFER DREW // Posted 3 June 2008 at 12:37 pm

Well the answer is obvious because men’s naked bodies must never ever be exposed. Only women are sexualised objects never, ever men. But still it is sex positive because women’s naked bodies are exposed for men to leer at and other women too can look and compare themselves to such images. It is called male-centric ideologies but masking itself as ‘sex positive’ which means women = sexual commodities but never ever men.

ideologies of human sexualities.

Anji // Posted 3 June 2008 at 1:15 pm

“I’m not a big fan of this term, but for want of a better word…”

Of course there’s a better word, and that word is pro-pornography.

Anne Onne // Posted 3 June 2008 at 3:24 pm

I do think that this is a case of the patriarchy affects everyone, even people who identify as feminist, and it’s insidiously easy to fall into the dominant tropes of society. Of course, it doesn’t help that the rest of society sets this up, so it might be harder to find willing male porn stars.

Theoretically, I do believe it is possible for feminist porn to exist, and I guess it would be something like women and men of all sizes, shapes and types having fun, with careful consideration that the women aren’t sidelined, or their pleasure being about giving men pleasure. I don’t think that we’ve reached a stage where there is a lot of truly groundbreaking stuff out there, and I’m sure a lot is still cast in the ‘woman as object, woman being sexy for man’ model society bases everything on.

I mean, I don’t envy anbybody trying to make feminist porn, simply because it’s so fraught with things to consider, so much conditioning we all have to unravel, and in this age of raunch culture, must be a very hard job. I do hope that in addition to improving mainstream porn, the conditions of its workers, and the mindset of society, we may also be able to produce healthy porn that is less problematic. I’m not one to believe that there HAS to be porn, with real people in it (imagination, anyone? ;) ) and as things stand, I think it a lot less problematic to take an anti-porn stance (though for me it’s more complicated… more of an anti-current, but maybe pro- one day) the way current porn is so problematic.

But then I do respect that people who are involved in an area may want to make it better rather than give up altogether. There’s no easy way to reconcile everything, but I do think there can be a place for both campaigning to end the exploitation of sex workers, trying to improve their rights and conditions, and trying to foster new areas which are less probelmatic.

Laura // Posted 3 June 2008 at 3:25 pm

Hi Ren :-)

“…perhaps the designers of the sites or directors, ect., use images they find erotic?”

Yes, that’s pretty likely, but I think it’s interesting that there is such a focus on women, even in places that claim to be producing stuff for (mostly or even just partly) het women. I’ve had quite a few conversations with women who generally prefer to have sex with men, but who claim to find the female body much more attractive and sexual. Which is fair enough, but then why aren’t they having sex with women?! I do think there’s definitely a tendency to associate women with sexual attraction, as though our bodies are somehow inherently and objectively more sexually attractive than men’s – and that leads to all kinds of problems.

Indeed, Samara!

You know, I think it’s very easy to say ‘oh, but objectifying men isn’t the answer’, but then if we didn’t have clubs full of naked women gyrating for men, music videos stuffed full of the same, magazines covered in naked women etc etc and instead just had sexually arousing material, images and entertainment featuring people or all genders, the patriarchal power dynamic would be gone and, assuming we could somehow establish proper workers rights and ensure all those taking part were doing so out of genuine choice, the sex industry wouldn’t be such a problem. Of course, I’m not under any illusion that this is going to happen, but I do think that if feminists are going to make porn/erotica then portraying the male body as sexual needs to be part of that (unless it’s for lesbians, of course!).


I take your point, but personally I don’t think defining feminists – or anyone – solely on their views on pornography is very helpful. I also think that the terms “anti-porn” and “pro-porn” are very reductionist and are often used in order to try and stifle debate, particularly when they are thrown at people as insults or used to imply that any view that deviates from either extreme automatically puts one in the other camp.

tom paine // Posted 3 June 2008 at 3:31 pm

It seems like you don’t get out much, virtually speaking. There are many sex positive sites that feature naked men, and I have put up such images on my own blog. But since I’m a straight man, I tend to prefer photos of women or couples/trios. No ideology involved, and I’m happy to have good stuff to show my straight female fans.

There’s a lot of sexism in the world that’s more pernicious than porn.

RenegadeEvolution // Posted 3 June 2008 at 3:39 pm

I’m one of those het women who thinks the female form is just full of awesome. Yet, no desire to have sex with women. It is rather odd, I suppose. I think maybe I look at other women and can appreciate their beauty as art, or just beauty, or even erotic, but not really find them flat out sexually arousing.

I also would hazard the guess that a lot of women in/making porn, even the feminist kind, are bisexual or bicurious. This seems to be the case from what I’ve seen/read/and people in the business that I’ve spoken too.

Also I think often times there is more diversity in looks with women performers as opposed to male performers, which could play into it a bit.

Anne Onne // Posted 3 June 2008 at 3:49 pm

Laura, I think you have a point. It reminds me of the ‘male gaze’, the idea that women are taught that women’s bodies (including their own) are a sexual sight, and learn to appraise women’s bodies in terms of desirability. We’re brought up in a society where women’s bodies are plastered over everything, with the understanding that they represent sex, and even heterosexual women are brought up to believe that their satisfaction should come from being sexually attractive (wearing sexy lingerie, looking and acting a certain way, acting a certain way in bed). Women are in a sense taught to be in competition with other women (and appraise the threat!), so we get an obsession with women’s bodies both because women are taught that their success in all areas (even sexual) is linked closely with their desirability and conforming to a standard, and because the media focuses on what it considers sexually attractive for white, heterosexual men, the idea being that everyone else should also take it.

I guess it’s more noticeable because heterosexual men are taught to be very distant from other men in that respect (you won’t hear one saying that he thinks men’s bodies are sexy, and prefers to look at them!), whereas women, living in a society that focuses on men as default. grow up in a society that presents women = sex, and learn that womens bodies are about sexual pleasure for men. In this kind of environment, it’s not surprising that women can take this in.

Iamcuriousblue // Posted 3 June 2008 at 4:46 pm

My two cents on this – a lot of the “sexy” images you’re critiquing, like the Hot Movies for Her are advertisements. Now if you want to raise the issue of putting ads on your blog, go ahead, but realize that once a blogger chooses to sell ad space, they don’t have 100% control of what goes up, and its not exactly a case of “why don’t you post more male images”.

I personally would not sell ad space, but I can’t condemn other bloggers who do so, especially those that put a lot of time into blogging and would like to see some revenue from it. As for the issue of “you take money from pornographers, blah, blah, blah”, well, as you may have noticed, the blogs selling such ads are not exactly anti-porn, hence, not accountable vis a vis anti-porn politics.

Laura // Posted 3 June 2008 at 4:52 pm

Good point, Iamcuriousblue, I hadn’t really taken that into account. But I still think the issue of woman = the sexy as default needs to be challenged.

“As for the issue of “you take money from pornographers, blah, blah, blah”, well, as you may have noticed, the blogs selling such ads are not exactly anti-porn, hence, not accountable vis a vis anti-porn politics.”

That’s not a point I am trying to make.

Jack Leland // Posted 3 June 2008 at 7:34 pm


Although I have no interest in seeing naked men (and, frankly, seeing men objectified or as sex objects really irritates me), I do agree that objectifying men is the answer. I shouldn’t have the privilege of not being annoyed, because that comes at the expense of women’s sexual freedom and promotes a lopsided culture that only sexualizes and objectifies women. I think people have a problem accepting the idea that in a perfect world, men may be irritated and upset an awful lot and women may have a lot more freedom to treat men worse than we are treated now because we have undeserved privileges.

CassandraSays // Posted 3 June 2008 at 8:09 pm

A while back I did Female Desire Week on my blog, which was pretty much an excuse to blatantly leer at hot men. And I always have a hot guy on the sidebar, and use another one as my icon. I’m doing my part to challenge the idea that women = sex!

I agree that this is an important thing that we need to focus on more. I don’t like seeing actual female desire left out of the picture. So hey, if anyone would be up for doing another round of Female Desire Week, aka blatantly admiring men for their faces and bodies and talking about why we admire them and how that feels for us, then let me know.

Also agree with Jack above that seeing male bodies being sexualised makes a lot of het men uncomfortable, and you know what? That’s part of the reason to do it, too. Let them experience that reaction and then think about why they feel so uncomfortable. They might learn something.

Laura // Posted 3 June 2008 at 8:21 pm

Hi CassandraSays – I did read your blog quite regularly a while ago, thanks for reminding me, and a big thumbs up!

Jack Leland // Posted 3 June 2008 at 9:16 pm


You’re totally right. As I said on another thread on this site, the more strong women get in men’s faces about things, the more men will have epiphanies. Men may not like it, but who says that losing male privilege should be pleasureable?

Sarah J // Posted 3 June 2008 at 9:47 pm

I definitely post pictures of hot menz on my blog, though it is most definitely harder to find pictures of them with less clothing on. not being a photographer, I don’t really have time to chase around pretty boys and get them to get their kit off for me, though what a great idea that sounds like…

Jack Leland // Posted 3 June 2008 at 10:07 pm

Sarah J,

I guarantee you if you approached men in the street and asked them to do that, they would not consider it harrassment and a few would be willing. I wholeheartedly encourage you to do it!

CassandraSays // Posted 4 June 2008 at 2:04 am

Hey Laura, haven’t seen you around in a while! Glad to see you settled in over here.

Sarah – We could make it a project! I’m sort of tempted to try it next time I go clubbing just to see what happens.

Dw3t-Hthr // Posted 4 June 2008 at 5:38 am

Well, my ‘sex-positive for lack of a better term’ blog doesn’t have photos of hot men on it because I respect my partners’ privacy and anonymity in that forum.

And anyway, it’s not their blog.

Laura // Posted 4 June 2008 at 11:02 am

On approaching men in the street for photos:


RenegadeEvolution // Posted 4 June 2008 at 11:52 am

Laura- Heh, you’ve prompted the return of Female Sexual Desire Week.

Click the link up there. Men. Lookin’ Sexy. Well, I think they are anyway :)

belledame222 // Posted 4 June 2008 at 4:04 pm

I answered at my place.

As for this:

“Of course there’s a better word, and that word is pro-pornography.”

You know, really, “not fixated on eliminating all visual erotica from the universe not only because one might enjoy -some- of it from time to time (or not) but because one has other priorities and frankly doesn’t understand the obsession here and probably never will” =! “pro-pornography” as such. JADP.

whatsername // Posted 4 June 2008 at 6:26 pm

On my sex positive blog I use as my bottom banner sexual pictures of both men and women.

But I’ll agree with others here, I generally find the female form more appealing than the male. And I am primarily heterosexual so…*shrug*

Jack Leland // Posted 4 June 2008 at 7:16 pm


I recall reading Alex Brew’s feature about photographing men and, in my opinion, she was too fearful of exploiting men, and so held herself back. Aside from the casual paternalism in that, I can’t say I’ve ever had a conversation with any man who was concerned that a woman he met may have exploited him in some fashion. Not to encourage exploitation, but fear of exploiting men really should be the last thing on any woman’s mind.

Holly Combe // Posted 4 June 2008 at 8:00 pm

Laura: I think you’ve really hit on something here. I often find myself jaded and uninspired whenever I look for porn because much of it just doesn’t speak to me as a woman who, so far, has generally fancied men. It seems that 75% of the stuff in the sex shops is focused on women’s bodies for hetero male consumers, with 25% focused on men’s bodies for gay male consumers. Women -whether lesbian, bi or hetero- still seem to be excluded as the ones doing the looking.

While I do think guy on guy stuff is sexy, I often find it doesn’t quite hit the spot, perhaps because of how hard it is for me to sub-consciously put myself in the scene (i.e as an anonymous player as opposed to being looked at or not) or identify with it.

The best thing I saw recently was a magazine cover (I can’t remember which one) with a woman and man getting it on against a cliff face. The woman had her back to the camera and was fairly anonymous, while the guy had his head turned to one side in a way that evoked a state of overwhelming arousal and pleasure. It was so sexy and I would have bought the magazine if it hadn’t been sealed and £10 (which, IMO, would be an overly expensive wank).

I have some ideas about how to address this problem and am torn between just outlining them so that someone with better contacts than me can consider making them a reality or hanging in there until I’ve got the cash to do it myself… Anyway, I agree with Jack that women need to be less afraid of possibly exploiting men but would add that

1) this is easier said than done when it is well known that we feminists are generally critical of the objectification of women and the fact that some see this as an unwaveringly oppressive force to be stamped out entirely will inevitably lead to those of us who want to celebrate men’s bodies to be labelled as hypocrites and

2) the worthy project of getting men into the spotlight can’t be tackled by women alone because we need willing men to do it! Jack seems to be suggesting that there are plenty out there so I would just like to take this opportunity to say this to them: if you want to help emancipate women, argue with us for our right to equal access to visual representations of the male body and fight alongside us against the one-sided sexism that says that men look, women are looked at and that’s just the way it is. You don’t have to become a feminist male porn star to do that but, for those who fancy it, I’d say that would be a worthy cause.

Thene // Posted 5 June 2008 at 2:36 am

I’ve linked pictures of hot men on occasion – more than I have pictures of women, and I’m one for both. Bitchy Jones is a sex-pos feminist blogger, and she very often throws in sexy pictures of men; so does Aishwarya. There’s people out there, if you look.

Jack Leland // Posted 5 June 2008 at 4:13 am


I think the “hypocrite” charge is rather unfortunate, and I don’t really see the hypocrisy. Since we don’t live in a matriarchal society, objectification of men does not perpetuate matriarchy. By contrast, objectification of women does perpetuate patriarchy, which is why it needs to be stamped out. Perhaps if we lived in a matriarchy, the charge of hypocrisy would make sense, but it doesn’t so long as we live in a patriarchal society, or even an egalitarian one.

figleaf // Posted 5 June 2008 at 6:59 am

Hi Laura,

For the record I took your comment not so much a complaint that there are too many women but that there aren’t enough men. If 75% of the images were men only and I was heterosexual (oh wait, I am!) I’d probably notice if the ratio was reversed.

Anyway, I post photos on my blog and I’m embarrassed that it took me so long to realize what the answer to your question probably is: it’s not so much male gaze (though there’s some of that) and it’s not so much lack of interest from women (though there’s a bit of that too.) It’s not even that most pro(gressive) sex sites are hosted by straight men or bi or lesbian women. (If it was a matter of direct preference you’d expect to see the ratio balanced by sites hosted by straight women, and bi or gay men.) Instead I’m pretty sure the answer is straight up homophobia. Or, more accurately, homo-anxiety. Some straight women don’t care much for dedicated photos of naked men but straight men, even pretty cool ones, tend to veer away sharply.

Consequently, unless you’re willing to see your traffic stay low (as I irrationally and/or stubbornly seem to be) then if you’ve got naked people at all you’re going to get a lot of hit-count “tipping point” reinforcement of the correct ratios.

Take care,


Qubit // Posted 5 June 2008 at 11:51 am

As a straight woman I do find myself more attracted to the female form than the male form. I am not quite sure why this is. It could be a natural instinct or it could be learnt behavior from the media.

It might also be that I am used to seeing a female form half naked but I am not used to seeing the male form. Looking at the male form feels exploitative and a betrayal to my partner while looking at a half naked female form is almost unavoidable in the average day.

Jack Leland // Posted 5 June 2008 at 6:34 pm


I think that’s a very accurate point, in my opinion. I think much of the resistance to women’s rights by men originates in the social construction of maculinity around homophobia. As soon as a het male gets the inkling that a situation may involve something gay, he is likely to disengage from the situation (which, by the way, is why male feminists are so unpersuasive in all-male settings; they simply get called “faggots”.)

A different Helen // Posted 7 June 2008 at 12:41 am

Have just got back from a trip to Milan where I spotted a large ad at a bus stop featuring a very sexy young chap wearing nothing but underpants. I much prefer looking at men than women so I really liked the ad, but it struck me that you would never get an ad like that on the street in Britain. My local Boots once had some lovely sexy ads that featured scantily clad gents, but they were scarcely up a week before they got taken down again, presumably due to complaints. (The ones featuring scantily clad women stayed up of course). This one-sidedness really does annoy me – if they are going to strip women naked and plaster them all over the place, then why not men as well?

Marks and Spencers particularly provoke me in this respect – they are always putting sexualised pictures of women in their underwear or in bikinis in their shop windows, but never ever put pictures men modelling undies or swimming trunks in their shop fronts. Totally sexist.

belledame222 // Posted 7 June 2008 at 1:16 am

“While I do think guy on guy stuff is sexy, I often find it doesn’t quite hit the spot, perhaps because of how hard it is for me to sub-consciously put myself in the scene (i.e as an anonymous player as opposed to being looked at or not) or identify with it.”

I can understand that.

It’s funny–I was just writing about slash in answer to this question, and it occurred to me that for me at least, the appeal of m/m slash is precisely because I don’t automatically identify with one or the other–in other words, it’s the queerness of it at least as much as the boy-on-boy per se.

But yeah, I agree that there’s a dearth of stuff that specifically appeals to straight women, or is -designed- to appeal to straight women, or…the stuff that is is maybe not that satisfying?

I wonder if maybe part of the issue is the ambivalence a lot of women (not all, obviously: again, see pretty much all of fanfic, slash or otherwise) have about “objectifying” men, not necessarily so much because they fear it’d be exploitive and thus politically bad so much as the perception that a man who’s thus “objectified” is somehow less masculine. “Pretty boy,” you know; personally I find precisely that dynamic hot as hell, but I imagine that for a number of let’s say more traditionally inclined women, they wouldn’t like it. And/or don’t really feel that they have a place in the equation, even still.

In other words, you have this male centerfold or other more or less static object of desire, right, and it’s like: either you have this very sort of (ahem) rigid dynamic along the lines of I don’t know Chippendales, which not everyone goes for, or…I wonder if it starts to cross a line into where the woman feels like she’d to be -dominant-, if not actually masculine, in order to really feel like she can own “the gaze,” you know, or whatever you want to call it. And isn’t comfortable with it, and thus just feels like…yeah, he’s attractive, but what does this have to do with me?

I wonder if that isn’t also why women tend to be attracted to stuff with narrative; not even so much because it’s “softer” or “romantic” or what have you, but because story offers a context where the woman can find herself again.

whereas the simple act of -wolf-whistle- -I’d like some of that, cor- –and yeah, a lot of women -are- totally fine with it? but I think not nearly so many as men are, let’s put it that way., not sure how clear that was…

belledame222 // Posted 7 June 2008 at 1:22 am

“It’s not even that most pro(gressive) sex sites are hosted by straight men or bi or lesbian women. (If it was a matter of direct preference you’d expect to see the ratio balanced by sites hosted by straight women, and bi or gay men.) Instead I’m pretty sure the answer is straight up homophobia. Or, more accurately, homo-anxiety. Some straight women don’t care much for dedicated photos of naked men but straight men, even pretty cool ones, tend to veer away sharply.”

…or, I was gonna say, that too? but also, and I think maybe what I was trying to get at in that last post: women also are not immune from (male) homo-anxiety. Obviously for slightly different reasons as from men, and it’s not usually as -directly- threatening, but I do think that women who are particularly invested in well? heterosexuality, in more or less traditional gender roles, are made anxious and queasy by men that appear -too- pretty, -too- vulnerable, -too- objectified.

Which doesn’t really answer why there still aren’t more kind of “beefcake” pics; but I know other people have talked about how oddly even really butch male centerfolds sit with traditional ideas of gender, in a way that pretty women never do: Susan Faludi had something about this in “Stiffed,” I think. Like, if they’re obviously just putting it on, it’s still sort of…not *really* masculine, you know? The rugged-looking guy posing with the jackhammer might still have soft hands cause he doesn’t actually know how to -use- it. Something like that…

CassandraSays // Posted 7 June 2008 at 11:30 am

Psst! Laura (and anyone else who might be interested).I at least am doing the whole Female Desire Week thing again (and Ren started the ball rolling too). OK, so all I did so far was post sexy men pictures with minimal commentary, but I’ll try to write something more intelligent tomorrow when I’m less sleep deprived.

Warning – a couple of the pics are NSFW because of nudity.

Ms Naughty // Posted 9 June 2008 at 7:14 am

My immediate thought is you’re not going to the right blogs :) I for one like to put up nice male pics wherever possible. :)

Jay // Posted 9 June 2008 at 9:39 pm

Glad to see this discussion, and just a couple of comments:

1.) While I think society tends to make het guys (and maybe het women, I don’t know) uneasy about homoeroticism involving men (whereas lesbians tend to be much more acceptable)…I think society can make some serious reversals in this area without that much trouble, if we work at it (and by “we”, I mean other straight men). I’m not threatened or opposed to male homoeroticism, much less just a “sexual” picture of a lone male…but to express that attitude opens me up for an argument (at least). I think straight guys need to start having those arguments more.

2.) Re: the lack of guys willing to pose for male beefcake/porn…am I the only one who enjoys erotic art/comics? There are as many hot guys in your imagination as you want…where are the artists? Just a thought (inspired by reading some manga lately, with some fairly hot guys in it…)

Rufus // Posted 10 June 2008 at 12:18 am

” a different Helen”,

//you would never get an ad like that on the street in Britain//

Well, not sure if it counts as ‘in the street’, but yesterday in the London Underground I noticed a series of underwear ads consisting precisely of buff man (over-shaven but good musculature) in nothing but underpants (no, NOT the STI public service ones ;-)). So there’s hope for us yet, perhaps.

belledame222 // Posted 11 June 2008 at 2:29 am

My own contributions to Female Desire Week, p.s.:

women, yes, coz I like ’em:

and also some mens:

There’s rather a lot.

lindabeth // Posted 23 June 2008 at 12:37 pm

This is a great conversation! And I have just one tidbit to add: I think it’s great and wonderful that het women often enjoy women’s bodies…but I do think also that a lot of that has to do with the ubiquitous sexualization of women and the absence of sexualization of men’s bodies. And I don’t mean this to be that women are “duped” into this, but what I mean is that if we as a culture and a sex culture represented the male body as sexual and vulnerable more and as overpowering (in a violent, non-consensual way) and threatening less, it could really do some good to expanding our capacity for desire, for both het women AND men. In the same way that many het women currently see the female body as sexy, men could be able to see the male body as sexy too. As already discussed, one big obstacle is homophobia.

Anyway, I have this wild dream that some day we can have sex clubs/erotic performance that are done by both men and women, simultaneously or side by side, when we can all appreciate the body-male and female- as erotic, and when performing sexuality (aka stripping or new and innovative types of sexual performance) is more about human sexual expression and less about homogeneously consolidating male privilege and subjugation through visual consumption and the absence of “sexual threat” (of gay men, lesbians (who aren’t themselves performing for them!) or “unattached” het women).

It’s a pipe dream, really…

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