Sisters – or mothers and daughters?

// 7 June 2008

this is what a feminist looks like mirrorWhy does the ‘mother-daughter’ theme of generational conflict continue to plague feminism, asks Polly Cassidy, in this guest post

I went to a talk at Housman’s bookshop in London last Friday, given by contributors to the anthology ’68-’78-’88: From Women’s Liberation to Feminism. The talk was hosted by Gail Chester, who was prompted to commission the book in the late ’80s by the exclusion of women and the women’s movement from the nostalgic celebrations of the 1968 anniversary.

Most of the women attending the talk were over 40 and had been involved with the women’s movement in the ’70s. They discussed what had been achieved by their efforts and drew contrasts with what is happening today. Grandmothers reflected that gender stereotyping exerts much more influence over childrearing now than it did in the ’70s and 80s. There was general concern that ground won by feminists has been lost in areas like the proliferation of porn and the sexualisation of girls.

It was really interesting to hear these perspectives on how things have changed. My eyeballs began to bulge slightly at the mention of ‘young women’ and ‘young feminists’, terms that were used fairly interchangeably. The women present were critical of the lack of active protest from today’s generation, and the tendency to ‘reinvent the wheel’ by revisiting old arguments and divisions. One woman thought the actions of current feminists are so insignificant that they don’t add up to a movement at all.

I was irritated by some of the views expressed about ‘young feminists’. I don’t want everything I do to be couched in terms of when I was born, or whether or not it lives up to the amazing stuff done by women in the ’60s and ’70s. Feminism momentarily seemed like a very heavy mantle to bear; there are fewer of us, the laws around protest are much more restrictive, politics is more insipid, and it’s much harder to use the dole to fund your activism. How could we ever live up to what these older women had done? I wanted to resist the broad brushstrokes being used to lump me in with a group of women who don’t bear contrast with the previous generation.

My next thought was that I was as much a feminist as anyone else in the room, and that feminism is not some kind of gymkhana in which different generations compete against one another. The older women were saying ‘young feminists’ in the same way young women often say ‘older feminists’ – a blanket term for ‘those other women I don’t have much contact with or can’t be bothered dealing with’.

A discussion on the FAF list over the last few days has covered similar ground, prompted by a proposal for a book called New Feminisms: mapping out the lines of feminisms-to-come, which “aims at creating an experimental space for new voices, thinkings and practices of feminism to be articulated—the ‘new’ entailing the capacity to move away from (though not necessarily reject) the ‘past’ of feminism as a moral, interpretative body of knowledge and experience, in an attempt not to dismiss the latter per se, but its status and workings as a prior enunciation, a savoir that engenders present and future imperatives to feminist thinking and practice.” Posts on the FAF list in response to this criticised the overly complex language, which could exclude some people, and there was ambivalence about whether contemporary feminism could be described as ‘new’. Do we need to “move away from (though not necessarily reject) the ‘past’ of feminism”? It seems to me that the New Feminisms proposal and the discussion at Housmans both suggest there are two generations of feminists, and that there is a disconnect between them characterised by mutual suspicion.

This relationship feels more like a mother-daughter bond than sisterhood; close links verging on dependency, but also a touch of tension, judgmentalism and an inability to enter each other’s world. It is a false, or at least an arbitrary distinction between different generations of feminism; older women are still around and still active, and there are feminists in their 30s and 40s as well as their 20s and 50s. There never have been two neat parcels of feminists in two age groups and with two distinct perspectives, but we often act as if there were.

There is so much to be gained from feminists of all ages and background working together. We don’t have to think about what’s going on now as some kind of zero-hour for a new movement, either in terms of activism or theory. Why not think of what’s going on now as a development of what went before? It could be really exciting and enriching.

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Comments From You

sian // Posted 7 June 2008 at 5:12 pm

this is a really interesting post. i often get frustrated when older feminists such as germaine greer bemoan the lack of young feminists – i think it would be much easier to get on with raising the profile of feminism if we didn’t haveto spend so much time and energy proving our existence! i’m really pleased that at the bristol feminist network we have a range of ages and get to share my young feminist experience with women who were active in the feminist movement in the 70s adn 80s, including one amazing woman who often tells us stories about her fight to get rights as simple as getting her name and not her husband;s on the gas bill. only by communicating across the generartions can we really appreciate how far feminism has come, and how the issues have changed, or how certain things may have got worse. and only with that knowledge cna we plan how to act next.

chem_fem // Posted 7 June 2008 at 5:54 pm

Fascinating post, thanks!

Shea // Posted 9 June 2008 at 2:05 am

I think it endemic of the generation gap in our society generally, although I think the current generation have more in common with our grandparents than parents. One of the most inspirational women and feminists I have ever met was in her fifties, she had been on all the demos and the marches. But even she acknowledged it is far harder to be radical now. There is a much harsher employment climate, the laws restricting protesting are worse as you said and we also have the backlash, in which many people think feminism has achieved all it needs to.

But there is some brillant dialogue to be had, and a lot that could be learnt on both sides.

Soirore // Posted 9 June 2008 at 12:27 pm

This article was really interesting. I find that it is much easier to be feminist now than it was ten years ago when I think the general population were more deluded about the achievements of feminism and many women thought we were all equal now. One of my friends even asked me why I was a feminist when young men were more disadvantaged “these days” (1999). I had to explain that as a very wealthy, educated, young, white British woman she probably wasn’t in the best position to see any inequality.

Interestingly Natasha Walter released The New Feminism in 1999 and it was an attempt to make feminism relevant to young women while accepting that they believe that things have changed. It wasn’t entirely successful but I point it out to show that there are constant reinventions going on.

I personally don’t like being refered to as a particular generation of feminist (I’m 29) as I have a lot in common with my retired, middle-aged and adolescent sisters and have learnt from all of them. But they are my experiences with individual women and not as part of the movement as a whole. It would be great if we could see feminism’s age diversity as a positive rather than segmenting the groups off from each other.

It is important also to remember that this blog is for contemporary feminism not young feminism. We shouldn’t assume that older women won’t share the perspective and automatically have a 1970s style approach to feminism. Or indeed that younger women all see feminism in this way.

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